Holy Spirit is our source of power but when we ignore His power, we quench Him and grieve the Holy Spirit of God. Related Post: Discover the 7 Steps for You to “Be Holy as I am Holy”. Yes, absolutely. Complete obedience is doing the will of the Father, therefore, there is no compromise. There isn’t anything we can do for the Lord in our own strength. 3. I am rejoicing in God for this powerful article. Believe He is with you because He dwells within you. Thank you, so very much for your comment, Mar. Because he is so near he is much concerned with our character and conduct. I would love to be able to dip in and out of this when unsure of things. 1. Sad, don’t you think? Hello, Evelyn, I have a few more posts specific to the teaching of Holy Spirit which you can find through using the search field. Thank you. The backsliding Christian grieves the Holy Spirit. "—Ephesians 4:30 . Amazing! Prove or test all things and abstain from the appearance of evil. Basically, anything we do that excludes the Trinity is grieving the Holy Spirit. Giving credit to satan for the works and miracles of Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin. I’m very glad to hear that, Tracy! Hi Cindy, please send me a pdf copy too. Could you please send me it in PDF format to my email address? Yes, I’ll send you this PDF file right away. God wants us to think of others. I’m glad this post was helpful to you, Maddie. Jesus said in Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth . Blessings, Cindy. To grieve the Holy Spirit is to cause sorrow, distress, and emotional pain to Jesus Christ Himself. Cindy Barnes has been called by God in the early 80s to be a teacher of His Word. My email address is cannon.auriel@gmail.com. We can grieve the Holy Spirit by our actions and attitudes (Ephesians 4:30). The Spirit enables us to do all things through Him. Ephesians encourages the believer to actually believe and act on the wonderful truth and power of life in Christ. He is sovereign. When we rely on ourselves, we quench Him and we grieve the Holy Spirit. What is the fruit of the Holy Spirit? As Ephesians 4:30 warns us: “do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God.” Yet we typically do this all the time, most frequently by ignoring Him. Hi, Arlene. Question: "What is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?" This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. In preparation I’ve been reading through a sermon by Richard Sibbes on this very text. I have a follow up series in the works on Holy Spirit, The Third Person of the Trinity. In order not to grieve Him, let’s choose to be doers of the word and not hearers only. Thank you for the teaching. When believers put on the shield of faith, as part of their armor of God (Ephesians 6:16), they are … God bless you! When we do the deeds of the flesh (sin), we distress and grieve the Holy Spirit of God. I’m glad to say that in our church, we are heavily dependent on Him to lead us in the way we should go. Very insightful thank you for sharing, like Pastor Mike I would really love to have a copy of this to share with my prayer team. No one explain about it Until saw this. He knows what we need and can and will supply that. Our feelings are fickle and cannot be trusted but God’s Word is true and trustworthy. I will clarify my statement in the post. "- Eph 4:30 . I trust this has been helpful to you and you can use it to teach your students about the Holy Spirit. The context of the passage deals with the issue of anger, sharing, "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear" (Ephesians 4:29). An influence cannot be sorry, whatever may happen to it. You explained this very well, I have a better understanding of grieving and quenching The Holy Spirit. When you repent of your sin, God quickly forgives you and that barrier between you is removed. We cannot do this in our strength. I grieved the spirit I’m only 16… What can I do to get him back please I beg you help me.. Quench means to put out or stop the move of the Spirit when believers are gathered together. Thanks , Cindy. But He does not make us robots. Sibbes, being a Puritan, knows how to squeeze every bit out of a text. And then it means four things: 1. despising some gift of the Holy Spirit, … A more delicate and tender term is used-"Grieve him not." He is reminding them to. When we focus only on ourselves, we grieve the Holy Spirit of God. 'Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed onto the day of redemption. We need to trust in Him and when we think we can do life on our own, we are denying His will for us and we grieve the Holy Spirit of God. We are definitely told to not grieve the Holy Spirit. So thirsty for more and still more on the Holy Spirit. Foul and abusive language makes the Holy Spirit sad. By John Wesley (1703 – 1791) Written in 1733 “Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” Ephesians 4:30. I’m not sure if “we” refers to me individually or we the group has no control. Read Paul’s teaching in Ephesians 4:1-32 (click the link to read the whole chapter). His will is that we follow the truths in His Word and live them out. Learn how your comment data is processed. The person who commits that sin would never be forgiven. Backsliding: we don’t pray anymore; we don’t read the Bible anymore, the leaves are stuck together; we don’t thank God anymore. What is the difference between a talent and a spiritual gift? Blessings, Cindy, Pingback: How to Hold On to Your Healing - Women's Tabletop Friendship, Pingback: How to Pursue God in 2 Important Steps - Women's Tabletop Friendship. Also, this post by Compelling Truth called How Does A Person Grieve or Quench The Holy Spirit would also be helpful. So, if you see the group doing or saying something that grieves Holy Spirit, speak up! I am saving this so I can read it over and over. This means that we apply what we learn from the Word of God so that we are fulfilling what it teaches. Is speaking in tongues evidence for having the Holy Spirit? He longs to work in and through us, and desires our cooperation and a spirit of unity. Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. I don’t want to go to hell please sister.. May you sense His Presence as you go through your day. Evil Speaking. God will write this one as well! So often we don’t think of Him as a person but He is and is always there for us. I am an instructor in biblical hebrew , leading a small bible school in pakistan . Not doing them will be like extinguishing the fire of the Spirit in our lives. Related Post: Top 21 Bible Verses for Trusting God in Difficult Times. Today I want to talk about grieving the Holy Spirit, which I am certain none of us wants to do. “Maybe you’re praying for someone and you sense in your spirit to pray in a certain direction, then do it.” What were you meaning by this sense in your spirit or direction like body position? I sincerely believe God led me here tonight. Something we all need to remember as we walk each day in holiness, pleasing God and Holy Spirit. Be sensitive and obedient to the still, small voice of God. Thank you for stopping by today! This is excellent, Cindy, and tells us so much about the nature of God. He knows the consequence of someone who commits the unforgivable sin. So, now we know the text verses so let’s see how we grieve or quench the Spirit today. FB has blocked my site! Ephesians 4:30 says And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Yes, it is important to know how we grieve the Holy Spirit, whether it is intentional or not. Often people think we grieve the Holy Spirit only when we verbally assault God. We don’t get to choose what we will obey and what we will ignore. Are these verses talking about the same thing? Please can I have this sent to me via email. Cindy teaches hundreds of women in her private online Bible Study Group who express their joy of growing deeper in their spiritual walk. You are most welcome. Through His presence in us Jesus is witness to our every word, thought and act. He may have wanted us to praise and worship in the Spirit but instead, we rushed on to the next item on the agenda and thus we quench the Spirit. I just tried to post this to Facebook and it’s not letting me. Thank you for opening my eyes and heart. What Happens When You are Walking in Truth? Pingback: How the Holy Spirit Improves Your Life - Women's Tabletop Friendship. Turn with me to Matthew 12:22-32 as we take a quick peek at what Jesus said to the Pharisees. But as you showed, it’s much more wider issue. Are you interested in a private social network community to study the Word of God and even participate in Bible Writing Challenges? Good lessons and News to me. We cannot share the gospel or witness our testimony to others without His power, without the Holy Spirit. The “… we have no control over.” is giving me a problem. This should be one warning against our carelessness in falling into temptation. spoke the messenger angel of God, and disappeared. I’m glad this has been helpful to you! Thanks for stopping by today. Thanks for pointing this out. What is the role of the Holy Spirit in our lives today? I really liked your article. It is when we stop applying the truth to our lives that we quench the Spirit and thereby we grieve the Holy Spirit of God. Rejoice, pray, give thanks and don’t quench the Spirit by despising prophesying. The Holy Spirit is God dwelling in our spirits. He is truly magnificent, eternally overwhelming and just The Perfection of God himself. It seems to me we can grieve the Holy Spirit when we go along with group think when we know, in our hearts, it’s wrong. Praise God for Holy Spirit as our Teacher and Counselor, who never leaves us! Because my understanding of grieving and quenching the Spirit was somewhat different. We are to build one another up as believers, not tear one another down. ‘Grieve not the Holy Spirit, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.’ Now let us look briefly at these four thoughts: Here we have-I. You are right in that the “we have no control over” is partially wrong and partially right. To be honest, there are days when I don’t feel His presence either but that does not mean that He is not with me. Hello, Pastor Mike, thank you for reading this post and inquiring about it. This confused me to an extent that my husband and I are separated. Thank you again for stopping by today. When we put away the old nature and take on the new nature, the opposite of grief is happening. Thank you for sharing your heart with me. Does the verse 18 say that we are not saved if we fear something? Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - What is it? Cindy, it’s absolutely amazing how God works in our lives. When believers put on the shield of faith, as part of their armor of God (Ephesians 6:16), they are extinguishing the power of the fiery darts from Satan. I am grateful to God that he lead me here and to you for letting His word speak through you. Ephesians 4, verse 30 Don’t grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed… so far. At that point, if you know it is wrong, then speak up or leave the group. Your words has enlightened me concerning the the Holy Spirit. For example, I may want to pray that God opens the door for Susie to get the job she applied for but Holy Spirit directs me to pray for God to close the door IF this job isn’t God’s will for her. Again, thank you for stopping by today! Hi, Hailey, thank you for reading and commenting. We grieve the Holy Spirit when we sin and we especially grieve the Spirit when we sin in ways that cause discord, perhaps because unity is a special work of the Spirit (see John 17).The obvious and important application is this: “Not wanting to hurt [the Spirit] is strong motivation for not intending the harm of his people or purpose” (Chapell). He is the third Person but not a third wheel. "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. This is so needed. Related Post: Top 10 Bible Verses About Destiny. Question: "Is the Holy Spirit God?" John wrote in his epistle, 1 John 2:20, 27 that we have an unction from the Holy One and ye know all things; but the anointing ye have received of him abideth in you and ye need not that any man teach you; but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. You are correct with your remark that when we go along with the group’s decision or action when we know it is wrong. So, no, this isn’t referring to body position. Alistair Begg Recommended for you. In the Thessalonian passage (1 Thess 5:19), Paul is teaching the believers about the coming of the Lord and to stay alert in the light. I will send you a PDF file later today to the email address you provided. I shall send it to you right away! Related Post: Do Not Grieve the Holy Spirit by Tim Challies. If you want, you can read this post just published last night called How the Holy Spirit Improves Your Life. I can testify myself how much my life has changed after I started giving the Spirit of God the priority in my life. Hi, Cindy, thanks for stopping by today. Thanks for reading this post and commenting. That’s a grief to the Holy Spirit. — Ephesians 4:30. In Jesus’ own words, all manner of sin and blasphemy is forgivable except for one thing and that is crediting the works and power of Holy Spirit to the works and power of satan. May the Lord bless you abundantly Cindy! In addition, she desires for women to develop an intense yearning to draw closer to God through reading and writing out the Bible. What does it mean to grieve or quench the Holy Spirit? When we have been bought with the blood of Jesus, sealed forever as a child of God, the Holy Spirit takes the initiative to transform us into godly people (2 Corinthians 5:17; Romans 8:29). However, if you take a stand for the correct Biblical application, then you do have control over the group’s outcome. When I realize that I cannot live a life of overcoming sin without the help of the Holy Spirit, it becomes very important to me how I respond to the Holy Spirit … So I honestly got a lot from what you wrote but coming out of new age when I read . Thanks so much for stopping by today. I have saved this in my Inspiration Board so I can review it going forward. We quench the Spirit by ignoring Him. When we think we do not need Him, that we have other avenues for the solution, then we are rejecting the work of the Spirit which is quenching Him and that’s when we grieve the Spirit of God. It means to cause sorrow, pain, or distress. With these meanings in mind, let’s look at the verses again for context. First, we grieve the Holy Spirit when we use him to excuse our sinfulness. So, now you know what NOT to do that grieves Him and you simply don’t do them. And we learn how vital Holy Spirit is in the Trinity. Thank you so much Your personality and the personality of the Holy Spirit were meant to blend together, to work in harmony. I am so scared of disappointing Him. And we live out there in the world, and the things of the world consume us. You are welcome, Mitchell. - Women's Tabletop Friendship. Not doing them would quench the Spirit. I’m glad you stopped by for a visit this morning and that you enjoyed this post on the 5 Things That Grieve the Holy Spirit. That’s why it’s so important for us to know what the Bible says about grieving the Holy Spirit — so we know how to avoid that pitfall! Hi, Eunice, thank you for your request for the handout for this post. Blessings to you in Pakistan! I’m new and not being to bash or sound rude. Quench = 4570 (Strong’s) is used metaphorically as of “quenching” the Spirit, by hindering His operations in oral testimony in the church gatherings of believers, (1 Thess 5:19). Thanks for asking this question. Hello, Auriel. I’d love to hear what you think about this topic. If the group doesn’t change its course of action, the group has grieved Holy Spirit. Thank you for your wonderful article on the Holy Spirit! If the group agrees with you and changes its action, then repentance is required before carrying on. As well, this post, Will God Forgive the Sin of Suicide would also be helpful. Why do I say that? Blessings, Cindy, Please I want to know more about the iholy Spirit …i would like to involve myself all of your topic about the Holy Spirit. HOW WE MAY GRIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD. Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, Gloria. What does it mean by “come in the flesh” in verse 2? Thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to minister through you in writing this article. But the best way is through reading your Bible and asking Holy Spirit to reveal Himself to you. He speaks only what he hears (John 16:13). The Pharisees immediately rationalized that Jesus cast out the devil by the power of Beelzebub, the prince of devils. I want so much to live a life controlled by God. We should be seeking diligently how we ought to live in holiness and righteousness. When we have an attitude of “me, me, me” or when we have an attitude of not caring about others or when we develop apathy towards the things of God, we both quench and grieve the Holy Spirit. This sealing is not a dead or external action that is finished once for all. Hi, Tracy, thanks for reading this important post about what not to do to the Holy Spirit. Note: Full text display for the deaf, hearing impaired and speakers of other languages Use Google Translate and Bookmark it. I’m glad this was helpful to your understanding of quenching and grieving Holy Spirit. Praise the Lord. Thank you for your encouraging comment, Gabryel. and do the right thing of being kind to one another and tenderhearted and forgiving each other. Penny for your thoughts? I hope that the truth in this post helps you to understand what “grieving” Him is all about. The Holy Spirit himself gave this revelation to you. Let me put your mind to rest about your question. Hi, there! Blessings, Cindy, Pingback: Holy Spirit, a Powerful Force in the Church - Women's Tabletop Friendship. They called it spam. Maybe you’re praying for someone and you sense in your spirit to pray in a certain direction, then do it. “Quenching” is what you do to the Spirit of the Living God while “grieving” is how He responds to your actions. Ephesians 4:30 warns us not to “grieve the Holy Spirit.” And 1 Thessalonians 5:19 says that we can “quench the Spirit.” These passages do not imply that the Holy Spirit has left us, only that He is sorrowful because of our sinful actions. Without him we are crippled. How can I be filled with the Spirit? How would satan’s kingdom stand if satan cast himself out? I’m preaching on Ephesians 4:30 this upcoming Sunday. I’m going now, Ruacha, Yeshu, Shalom! He poked holes at their theology with His questions, Matthew 12:26-27: Look down to Matthew 12:31-32 where we read what the unforgivable sin is. So, unfortunately, any blog post with my link will not be posted on FB. I am so sorry that she misdirected you concerning the Holy Spirit and whether you were grieving Him or not. Cindy this article was a true blessing to read and receive. Psalm 106:33. I read this verse today, Psalm 31:1 In Thee, O Lord, do I put my trust; let me never be ashamed: deliver me in thy righteousness. Blessings, Cindy, I really enjoyed this message Cindy. Please leave a comment for me. A wonderful revelation. Thank You for this teaching, I believe I will go back to this a lot. We also grieve Him as individuals. Hello, Charles. be renewed in our minds (Eph 4: 1, 22-23). What is the role of the Holy Spirit? Thank you for explained. The word "grieve" itself, "to make sorrowful," just the use of the word itself places the appeal into an altogether different category. Answer: The concept of “blasphemy against the Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. When we rely on our own strength to work out the solutions we need, we are not relying on the Spirit of God. Thanks for visiting today! As for the ‘advice’ she gave you and the result it caused, I pray that God will restore your marriage if that is His will (I do not know the situation but He does) and I pray that you will continue to draw close to Him and walk in the Light of the Truth. I truly appreciate it. Related Post: The Role of Holy Spirit in the Church. I am a Pastor in Kansas, great study. How is the Holy Spirit active in our lives today? Is there a difference between quenching the Spirit of God and grieving Him? It may be the Lord is expecting one to speak up for Him even though others acquiesce. Related Post: What Happens When You are Walking in Truth? Three in One, each Person as important as the other. iv. What are we leaving on the table? 80. He may have wanted to give a message through the gifts of the Spirit but instead, we used a water hose to quench the Spirit. Thank you for helping me get the Word out! Another way we deny the Spirit is when we shut down the moving of the Holy Spirit in our fellowship gatherings. Unfortunately, sharing it to FB results in a message that my website link is spam. Be blessed Cindy. God has been my constant throughout ALL my life and has never let me down; man has let me down but not the Holy Spirit. What does it mean to grieve / quench the Holy Spirit? I’m thankful that this word study is helpful to you. Thanks for reading this and I’m glad this post about the things that grieve the Holy Spirit was helpful to you! Thank you so much for those powerful words. Studying about the Spirit is very important and rely on on Him, He even prays for us. So, by denying the power and move of Holy Spirit, we quench the Spirit resulting in our actions grieving Him. As usual, Jesus stayed calm as He corrected them. Praise God! After multiple attempts asking them to review my site, they still haven’t responded or unblocked my website. I know you don’t want to grieve Him. 8:29–30). from Got Questions: When the word “quench” is used in Scripture, it is speaking of suppressing fire. Holy Spirit is within you. do have in PDF form to use as a pass out? Thanks for letting me know this has been helpful to you. She is a serious student of the Word, focusing on the Inductive Bible Study Method since 2007. 4 Ways We GRIEVE The HOLY SPIRIT !!! When we grieve Holy Spirit, He does not leave you though He is grieved. Christian Truth. In the same way, because the Spirit of God dwells within us, when we ignore His leading or disobey Him, or when we put down our shield of faith, we are extinguishing the Holy Spirit’s fire in us. Let the Word be your guide (Psalm 119:105) and trust it. Chapter 4 Questions 1. He is vital to the believer’s life. All sin is grievous to him, as holiness is hurt by unholiness and love by unworthiness. Because if you are filled with the Spirit of the Living God, why in the world would you consider committing a heinous sin? Some have the potential to grieve … II. To “grieve” means to make sad or sorrowful. There are a number of ways He wants to express Himself but instead, we put out His fire when we don’t allow Him to move in our midst. Thank you for sharing. By the way, I’m glad you have left the new age movement and are born again now. I can share this to my bible study. The Spirit is joyful with us. When we begin to understand the magnitude of Holy Spirit’s role in our lives, I believe we will be more sensitive to Him. Only someone who was faking their Christianity or someone who has outrightly rejected God would be able to say such things. Its very clear and understanding. All three persons of the Trinity are fully God, yet in the divine economy the Son makes known the Father and the Spirit glorifies the Son. It is on its way to you right now. These are Biblical truths that you can count on. Let’s look at the meaning of “grieve” and “quench” from Vine’s Expository Dictionary. "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby you are sealed unto the day of redemption" [Ephesians 4:30]. Let your life be in one accord with the Spirit and put a smile on His face. If this has been a blessing to you, please pin it on Pinterest! We are members of the body of Christ and when we ignore our Christian family, we are not living out His will for us. Grieving the Holy Spirit "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Grieve = 3076 (Strong’s) is used in the active voice as of grieving the Holy Spirit of God (as indwelling the believer); (Eph 4:30). He should always be the center, our everything. Your article enlightened. Ephesians 4:30 adds, "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God." I really like that you sharing how can grieve the Holy Spirit in us not knowing by just being desobidient or not to sensitive to the voice that tell us to do this or to do that.thank you so much. Thank you so much for this post. When the Spirit is moving in you, let Him move. Hello, Faith, I’m so glad you appreciate this post. A more delicate and tender term is used—"Grieve him not." I’m glad this post helped you to understand what happens when we grieve the Holy Spirit. Christ described hell as a place where the fire would not be “quenched” (Mark 9:44, 46, 48). I’m having a hard time understanding one thing though: “Grieving the Spirit is also done collectively as a group which, individually, we have no control over.”. All praise to God for directing your steps as He led you here. Third, we grieve the Holy Spirit when we suggest he is jealous of our focus on Christ. Praise God! I’ll be writing a series on Holy Spirit, keep an eye out for it! It begs to ask the question, what does our relationship with God REALLY look like if we are not actively functioning in this manner? Or may I copy and Paste? So when we pray, there’s not any answer. Holy Spirit is the power in our lives and we need Him. Absolutely, Philip, and if you would like the PDF that I sent to a few other readers, just let me know and I’ll email it to you. Thank you, Mollel. 4. God has a plan for your life and mine. Have a blessed day! On this edition of Spirit Church, David Diga Hernandez ministers on the Personality of the Holy Spirit and on the need to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit. I’m glad this post is helpful to you, Gail. Like us, He also can experience grief. Some great insights and things to remember! He is teaching us what we should be doing. “Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God” [Ephesians 4:30]. You are not alone, Gina. However, don’t let fear get in the way as that is what the devil wants, for you to live in fear. So true, Mari-Anna. What does it mean to be filled with the Holy Spirit. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God (Ephesians 4:30). Repent of your sin and accept His forgiveness. The group has grieved Holy Spirit. 2. I plan on looking for your other posts. His still small voice for us becomes drowned out in our own selfishness and self-centeredness. Jesus sent Holy Spirit to be our Comforter, our Healer, our Teacher, our everything. 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